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: Tal : Again I would urge that you find out more about the persons you deal with before making assumptions. : I am more than aware of the theories and philosphies of Dr Lange as I have been living a Gorean Master /slave relationship for a period of 9 years plus offline, this I hasten to add also included a chain at one period. : So as far as slave care and training go I think I know what I am talking about. : There is also quoted in the books that a Master does not need to use His whip as the slave is more than aware that the knowledge of the whip just being there and her being under its discipline is sufficient to ensure her obedience and utter submission. : I again give you this opportunity to retract your words and apologise for the statement you made earlier and in doing so settle this matter without the need for a Match of Honour. : I of course will meet you if that is your desire as I do take My codes quite seriously : I leave you a riddle : : What is invisible but more beautiful than diamonds : And which is silent ..but deafens like thunder : And depresses No scale ......but is weightier than Gold : : If you know the answer to this riddle ....I am sure you will see the seriousness of this situation : I wish you well : DaemonStorm : PostScript : This message was originally added yesterday but would appear to have been erased or not posted ..

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